Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio to graduate from H!P at end of Summer

Postby Shoujo Q » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:18 am

Well this sucks. I was at a funeral and came out to my phone exploded with messages, most of which was this. What a crappy day. :( I'm going to miss her.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio to graduate from H!P at end of Summer

Postby sukibeam » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:42 am

Celedam - I appreciate where you're coming from, and would normally agree about judging things from half-way around the world...

But honestly? In the end, she chose to be an idol, knowing full well what that entailed from watching her seniors as a KSS. Before this, I was neither here nor there regarding her, but now I am just plain disappointed in her. She couldn't have pulled herself together for two months? This hurts the other 7 members, Hello! Pro, and most importantly her fans who will never get to send her off.

Maybe she did have something personal going on causing her act out in whatever way that was breaching her contract, but you know what? Grown-ups still have to do their jobs even if something is sucking for them, and ultimately, she agreed to the responsibilities entailed onto her as a member of Kobushi Factory. She was selfish and irresponsible by not following through on her duties or listening to management the first time around, and now her shadow is always going to loom over the other girls. Just like Aina does for Juice=Juice and Uta does for Country Girls. She's caused a scandal - albeit less serious than Kago smoking or she-who-I-refuse-to-name becoming an adulteress. Hirose seems very composed and sweet in her blog, but if I were a KF member I would be pissed off.

I just feel bad for all the fans who were saving up, making plans, and looking forward to cheering her on at her graduation.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio to graduate from H!P at end of Summer

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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio to graduate from H!P at end of Summer

Postby RpgN » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:32 am

sukibeam wrote:Celedam - I appreciate where you're coming from, and would normally agree about judging things from half-way around the world...

But honestly? In the end, she chose to be an idol, knowing full well what that entailed from watching her seniors as a KSS. Before this, I was neither here nor there regarding her, but now I am just plain disappointed in her. She couldn't have pulled herself together for two months? This hurts the other 7 members, Hello! Pro, and most importantly her fans who will never get to send her off.

Maybe she did have something personal going on causing her act out in whatever way that was breaching her contract, but you know what? Grown-ups still have to do their jobs even if something is sucking for them, and ultimately, she agreed to the responsibilities entailed onto her as a member of Kobushi Factory. She was selfish and irresponsible by not following through on her duties or listening to management the first time around, and now her shadow is always going to loom over the other girls. Just like Aina does for Juice=Juice and Uta does for Country Girls. She's caused a scandal - albeit less serious than Kago smoking or she-who-I-refuse-to-name becoming an adulteress. Hirose seems very composed and sweet in her blog, but if I were a KF member I would be pissed off.

I just feel bad for all the fans who were saving up, making plans, and looking forward to cheering her on at her graduation.


Well...C-ute managed to end on a high note and were loved by many despite the graduations and scandals they dealt with. While I understand what you're saying I don't think Rio will affect the group greatly, especially if the other 7 remain motivated and willing to improve.

It's still very odd though...only 2 months left. It's very unfortunate that they won't be celebrating her graduation.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio to graduate from H!P at end of Summer

Postby Celedam » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:53 am

*cracks knuckles*

sukibeam wrote:Celedam - I appreciate where you're coming from, and would normally agree about judging things from half-way around the world...

I don't believe that for a moment. You just say that in order to excuse everything else that follows.

sukibeam wrote:But honestly? In the end, she chose to be an idol, knowing full well what that entailed from watching her seniors as a KSS.

She became an idol when she was only 14 years old. Do I get to hold you forever responsible for what you did at 14?

sukibeam wrote:Before this, I was neither here nor there regarding her, but now I am just plain disappointed in her.

Guess how much I care about your disappointment.

sukibeam wrote:She couldn't have pulled herself together for two months?

And we don't know why. We never will.

sukibeam wrote:This hurts the other 7 members, Hello! Pro

Well, yeah…

sukibeam wrote:and most importantly her fans who will never get to send her off.

…aaaaaaaand there it is, the reason why I hate most other idol fans, including many of you who are reading this: you think you own these girls. You think they owe you something. You forget that it's a business arrangement and you are nothing more than a glorified customer.

sukibeam wrote:Maybe she did have something personal going on causing her act out in whatever way that was breaching her contract, but you know what?

Again you say "but", so again I say you just say that in order to excuse everything else that follows.

sukibeam wrote:Grown-ups still have to do their jobs even if something is sucking for them

For better or worse, we've spent the last few decades trying to get away from that attitude. We supposedly want people to be able to balance work and life and be happy with their careers, and we've passed a lot of laws in order to make that possible. Was I just imagining all of that?

sukibeam wrote:and ultimately, she agreed to the responsibilities entailed onto her as a member of Kobushi Factory. She was selfish and irresponsible by not following through on her duties or listening to management the first time around

She said she wanted to retire, and since we're speculating wildly here, I speculate that she wanted to retire immediately. I speculate that Up-Front forced her to continue until the end of the summer so that they could do the whole graduation thing and exploit the hell out of her, with very little regard for what she actually wanted and what was actually happening in her life. I speculate that whatever it was got much worse since the initial announcement, to the point where the whole situation became untenable, so she did whatever she had to do in order to break the contract and get out. And I speculate that Up-Front is spinning this hard in order to save face, maintain order, and keep the rest of the members in line.

In my speculation, Rio is the victim and Up-Front is the villain. Is it true? We don't know. We can't know. And that's the point.

sukibeam wrote:and now her shadow is always going to loom over the other girls. Just like Aina does for Juice=Juice and Uta does for Country Girls.

Yes, that's true, and that's unfortunate, but that's life.

sukibeam wrote:She's caused a scandal - albeit less serious than Kago smoking or she-who-I-refuse-to-name becoming an adulteress.

For fuck's sake… :facepalm:

sukibeam wrote:Hirose seems very composed and sweet in her blog, but if I were a KF member I would be pissed off.

Puh-lease. The rest of those members probably know exactly what's going on and have had months if not years to prepare for this. They don't need you to be outrageously outraged for them.

sukibeam wrote:I just feel bad for all the fans who were saving up, making plans, and looking forward to cheering her on at her graduation.

GET OVER IT.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio to graduate from H!P at end of Summer

Postby Denki » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:38 am

I guess it's time to change the header, since she didn't got the chance to graduate...
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby resop2 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:53 am

^^
I think that wota should speak up sometimes, if for no other reason than to let an idol know that her new hairstyle simply is not working.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Shoujo Q » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:31 am

Now that I've collected my thoughts. You can't blame fans for speculating. That's usually what happens when shocking things occur and you're given a vague understanding of what went down. Knee jerk reaction defaults on boyfriends, drugs, inappropriate behavior every time without fail. That's just human nature at work. It sucks that this happened and I wish it didn't. We may find out the truth some day, but not today. Hell, it took almost 20 years for us to find out the truth on why Fukuda Asuka left. Idol life isn't for everyone and a lot of the idols today only see this as a side job, something to make a little extra cash, not a life long gig. Some girls can take it, and others can't. You can't blame them and you shouldn't blame them or think less of them because of the paths they take. Not everyone is a Momochi. I'm sad that Rio couldn't hold out nor to I feel any ill will towards her for not making it to her ending. Some flames just don't make it to the end. I wish her the best in her future life, whatever it is she plans to do and I hope she is happy for it.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby erin » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:20 am

I just hope everything is alright with Rio, I wish her the best of luck with her future.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby AyuHikaru » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:40 am

Speculation is fine, but putting blame on the girl because of that speculation is not. We don't even know if it was because of her bad attitude, we're just assuming a bunch of stuff and blaming her for it. THAT is unfair.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Zunu » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:58 am

Wow. I am surprised. It's very rare for UF to make this kind of announcement where they are unequivocally rebuking the idol for her behavior. It's a pretty messed up way to leave the business. Having said that, we don't necessarily have to presume she's jumped to Juvenile Delinquency. I've seen regular world employees who knew they were going to resign, retire or get terminated in the near future who just lose all remaining enthusiasm for their job. Especially if the job involves having to put on a false face a large amount of the time. Even if the person consciously wants to stick it out, they start passively-aggressively sabotaging their own behavior, showing up late, screwing up their performance, badmouthing corporate policy, because on some level they want to hurry up and be done with it as soon as possible, even if that means getting fired. Am I saying that happened with Rio? Of course not. There's not really anything I can say that would not be pure speculation except for what we know: That whatever her misbehavior was, Up-Front THOUGHT it was within her control to deal with it, and because she didn't exercise that control, she was let go in rather brutal fashion. Up-Front, at least historically, has shown willingness to bend over backwards to help the girls, but when they think they're getting jerked around, they lose patience pretty quickly, as is their right. Just as it's her right to want to move on with her life. I was never a fan of hers to begin with, but good luck to her. I just hope that whatever she did doesn't adversely affect Hello!Project.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Amped » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:58 pm

from Sasaki Rikako's blog

Kobushi Factory Fujii Rio.

May you spend time everyday with a smile.

Everyone, Let all spend some time to just smile today. :)

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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Nayoko-Kihara » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:02 pm

Didn't expect to see this first thing after logging on. I have mixed opinions on both sides of this issue; I won't paint either the company or the girl in a negative light. I'll second Zunu's sentiment in hoping whatever happened doesn't backfire on Hello! Project as a whole.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Starra » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:15 pm

People are blowing this way out of proportion. It's not uncommon for young people to have points in their lives where they just do not care. I've experienced that many times. Most likely she just stopped being motivated after announcing her graduation and thought "eh I don't have to try anymore". I doubt it's something incriminating and those saying it's a scandal need to get over themselves. It's not a tabloid reporting on illegal behaviour (such as was the case with Kago, who was the last case of "fired for breaking the rules" H!P has seen). We'll never know what rule/s she broke, and it could be as simple as looking bored during events (which many wota have mentioned) or something like skipping practice.

I don't even care about Fujii at all, but Christ. This isn't nearly as horrific as people seem to think it is...

Shoujo Q wrote:Hell, it took almost 20 years for us to find out the truth on why Fukuda Asuka left.

Eh, kinda. She'd said from the start that it wasn't for her/she didn't fit in (or at least we'd known that for ages), she just cleared up some things.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Amped » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:44 pm

Taguchi Natsumi is the first to react
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Menno » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:27 pm

It sound very much like UF terminated the contract early because she showed up late to often or didn't show up at all at scheduled appointments after she announced her graduation. Most likely at rehearsals, but also for media appearances, there was 1 television show, I think it was Live B where she wasn't part of the talk, just doing the performance.

The 1st couple of times she might have got reprimanded, hence the talk about improvement. But if she continued being late or completely absent without reason it's no surprise that UF simply fired her, any company would have done the same in this kind of situation.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby 321BreakinOut » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:13 pm

Honestly Rio wasn't a popular member so I wouldn't be surprised as well if they did it just to save on money for her graduation
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Shoujo Q » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:18 pm

But they are losing money during the h!p summer concert. I imagine she's in the DVD, visual book and a number of other things. I'm sure a lot of that stuff has already been printed. Do they dump all those goods and make new ones? They cancelled a whole DVD concert release after Kago and she wasn't even fired yet. Do they let it slide (though I imagine they would need to pay her a little), make new goods or what? I'm curious to hear what everyone else thinks. I was thinking about it all day yesterday.
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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Amped » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:30 pm

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Re: Kobushi Factory's Fujii Rio has left H!P (7/6/17)

Postby Menno » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:00 pm

Shoujo Q wrote:But they are losing money during the h!p summer concert. I imagine she's in the DVD, visual book and a number of other things. I'm sure a lot of that stuff has already been printed. Do they dump all those goods and make new ones? They cancelled a whole DVD concert release after Kago and she wasn't even fired yet. Do they let it slide (though I imagine they would need to pay her a little), make new goods or what? I'm curious to hear what everyone else thinks. I was thinking about it all day yesterday.

That's going to be an indication on how bad this 'break-up' is. I think that with Kago's situation it was much more over the media then it is now. So I expect that the goods might not be affected, only the dedicated stuff for Rio will be pulled, but that's never that much at Summer Concerts. We will see next week when the goods are announced before the 1st concert.
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